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  Who really is the faithful and discreet* slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?

  by Alex Williams in

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  this statement was answered in a form of a question to a question posed by one of his followers;.

  jesus realized that composite slave had to qualify for such an appointment when he came into power of his kingdom promised by jehovah god.

  [and they came to life and ruled as kings with the christ+ for 1,000 years].

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  "Prove it! Stop using the bible"

  Long before 1914 the group known then as Millennial Dawners/JWs in the 1800 warned to watch out for a marked year from the bible chronology of 1914.

  The first few months of 1914 the clergy and others poured considerable ridicule upon C. T. Russell and the Watch Tower Society for failing to see anything happening to the Gentile nations as they were well into the year 1914 with nothing happening.

  But all this ridicule stopped when nation after nation and kingdom after kingdom began cascading into what now is called the first world war 1914 as predicted 40 years before it happened by the Zions Watchtower.

  August 30, 1914,a leading New York city newspaper called The World.

  
  "New York World. The New York World was a newspaper published in New York City from 1860 until 1931. The paper played a major role in the history of American newspapers. It was a leading national voice of the Democratic Party"

  
  

  
  

  
  On August 30, 1914, the arresting headline “End of All Kingdoms in 1914” blazed across page 4 of the Sunday magazine section of The World, a leading New York newspaper.

  
  

  “The terrific war outbreak in Europe has fulfilled an extraordinary prophecy,” stated this feature article. “For a quarter of a century past, through preachers and through press, the ‘International Bible Students [Jehovah’s Witnesses],’ best known as ‘Millennial Dawners,’ have been proclaiming to the world that the Day of Wrath prophesied in the Bible would dawn in 1914. ‘Look out for 1914!’ has been the cry of the hundreds of traveling evangelists who, representing this strange creed, have gone up and down the country enunciating the doctrine that ‘the Kingdom of God is at hand.’”

  
  

  
  
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  Who really is the faithful and discreet* slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?

  by Alex Williams in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this statement was answered in a form of a question to a question posed by one of his followers;.

  jesus realized that composite slave had to qualify for such an appointment when he came into power of his kingdom promised by jehovah god.

  [and they came to life and ruled as kings with the christ+ for 1,000 years].

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  1 Corinthians 15:21-23 NWT
  

  But each one in his own proper order: Christ the firstfruits,e afterward those who belong to the Christ during his presence.

  Any anointed Christians [144,000] die during Christ’s presence, they are resurrected to heavenly life.
  

  When did this COMING/PRESENCE begin

  What were his disciples actually asking at

  Matt 24 KJV
  Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

  Obviously they didn't ask what will be the sign of your coming because it doesn't harmonize with his appointing a Slave to feed his people at his return;

  Matt 24-45 NIV
  Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time? 46 It will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns

  If they actually asked about his coming [which has not occurred as per Churches of Christendom] then no faithful and wise servant/Slave has been appointed since he has not returned therefore his sheep are not spiritually fed and have starved from the lack of spiritual food

  Matt 4-4 NWT
  “It is written: ‘Man must live, not on bread alone, but on every word that comes from Jehovah’s* mouth.’”+

  Matt 24-3
  

  Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign of your presence*

  
  state or fact of existing, occurring, or being present,a person or thing that exists or is present in a place but is not seen.Presence is not a verb, but, as a noun, it can mean a state of being,

  What presence were they asking had to be about his being present in kingdom power since they were concerned about earthly kingship in Israel:

  Acts 1
  After he had suffered, he showed himself alive to them by many convincing proofs.+ He was seen by them throughout 40 days, and he was speaking about the Kingdom of God.So when they had assembled, they asked him: “Lord, are you restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time?”

  In other words are you going to now after you have died and was resurrected going to set up the Kingdom right here on earth over in Jerusalem.

  This is in reference to the question they asked in Matt 24 about his Kingdom presence not coming.

  Jesus actually pointed forward to the actual date his Kingdom would be established alerting all that his Kingdom presence had taken effect as 1914

  Matt 24-7 NWT
  "For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom"

  This is a Jewish idiom used in rabbinical literature for a world war

  
  This is consistent with Jewish writings of the first century. One Jewish source known as the Zohar Chadash states: At that time wars shall be stirred up in the world. Nation shall be against nation and city against city; much distress shall be renewed against the enemies of the Israelites.

  Another Jewish source known as the Bereshit Rabbah states: If you shall see the kingdoms rising against each other in turn, then give heed and note the footsteps of the Messiah.

  
  

  
  So World War I was a sign that the birth pains had begun. And nearly all historians agree that World War II was merely a continuation of World I.

  So his presence began in 1914 his Kingdom began in 1914 and all the events depicted in Revelation began 1919 as well as appointing a Slave to fed his sheep
  
  
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  Who really is the faithful and discreet* slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?

  by Alex Williams in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this statement was answered in a form of a question to a question posed by one of his followers;.

  jesus realized that composite slave had to qualify for such an appointment when he came into power of his kingdom promised by jehovah god.

  [and they came to life and ruled as kings with the christ+ for 1,000 years].

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  "Instead some of us lost our families and friends"

  Jesus warned of this when he clearly said:

  49I have come to ignite a fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled,Do you think that I have come to bring peace to the earth? No, I tell you, but division.…

  37Anyone who loves his father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me; anyone who loves his son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me;

  One had to prove he is worthy of the King
  
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  Who really is the faithful and discreet* slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?

  by Alex Williams in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this statement was answered in a form of a question to a question posed by one of his followers;.

  jesus realized that composite slave had to qualify for such an appointment when he came into power of his kingdom promised by jehovah god.

  [and they came to life and ruled as kings with the christ+ for 1,000 years].

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  'If in fact in 1919 the faithful slave was chosen as God’s channel on earth, and Christ Jesus, the Master approved of them, why is it that we do not still teach the things taught back then? Why are they considered, "old light"? Yet it was considered truth for that time. Truth does not revert back to falsehood if it was indeed truth to begin with. Why has the slave rejected what the master had approved of?"

  The truth never EVER changes but the understanding of that truth has and will continue right to the END,
  its like the bright morning light that grows brighter and brighter.

  Proverbs 4:18 NWT
  But the path of the righteous is like the bright morning light

  That grows brighter and brighter until full daylight.+

  I addressed this before as to why the understanding has evolved over the years,

  does the passage say :
  the path of the righteous is like the a bright morning light,that's its brightest in the morning as well as daylight?

  NO,its gradual progression ,brighter and brighter suggest learning and understanding in stages not full knowledge from the beginning,How can it be expected Zions Watchtower

  have complete understanding of Gods will when the apostles who were with Jesus didnt completely understand his teachings even after he died and was resurrected?

  Example:

  Jesus said over and over his Kingdom was New Jerusalem in heaven not the earthy city in Israel,in fact he predicted the temple would be destroyed as proof.

  
  New Living Translation John 18:36
  Jesus answered, “My Kingdom is not an earthly kingdom. If it were, my followers would fight to keep me from being handed over to the Jewish leaders. But my Kingdom is not of this world.”

  Yet his followers asked this question after Jesus was resurrected

  Acts 1-6 NIV
  

  Then they gathered around him and asked him, “Lord, are you at this time going to restore the kingdom to Israel?”

  Why would they ask this question about an earthly Kingdom over in Israel in view of his constant teaching about his heavenly New Jerusalem?

  Because they didnt understand fully about New Jerusalem and they wanted relief right then from Roman rule,they had no idea Jesus was leaving soon to set up his heavenly Kingdom.

  There are other instances when they didnt fully understand his teaching and would privately ask Jesus what he meant .

  So the Slave in 1919 after leaving false religious teachings of Satan should have understood Jehovah's truths from the very beginning when Jesus followers who were right there with the great teacher didnt fully understand some of his basic teachings
  

  
  
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  Who really is the faithful and discreet* slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?

  by Alex Williams in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this statement was answered in a form of a question to a question posed by one of his followers;.

  jesus realized that composite slave had to qualify for such an appointment when he came into power of his kingdom promised by jehovah god.

  [and they came to life and ruled as kings with the christ+ for 1,000 years].

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  "Deut. 18:20-22 ~ "20 But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death.”21 You may say to yourselves, “How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the Lord?” 22 If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken""

  An Old Testament prophet's role was not to predict the future always but to proclaim the word of Jehovah to the people as given to him by God himself.

  
  The prophet's primary role was to communicate the truth about God, to warn His people of their accountability to God and of the impending consequences of their actions whether positive or negative.

  Jeremiah 35:15
  However, I have spoken to you again and again,* but you have not obeyed me.+ 15 And I kept sending all my servants the prophets to you, sending them again and again

  
  

  Speculation is not the same as prediction,
  Prediction means that you have evidence to back up your idea. Speculation is a prediction without evidence or very little evidence.

  Speculation about dates doesnt mean they were predictions of future events and the speculator never claimed to be inspired of God

  
  Their writings are not inspired as are those of Paul and the other Bible writers.

  
  

  
  
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  Who really is the faithful and discreet* slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?

  by Alex Williams in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this statement was answered in a form of a question to a question posed by one of his followers;.

  jesus realized that composite slave had to qualify for such an appointment when he came into power of his kingdom promised by jehovah god.

  [and they came to life and ruled as kings with the christ+ for 1,000 years].

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  "Can you tell me the names of the ones Jesus appointed in Brooklyn as his Faithful and Discrete Slave in 1919?"

  Individual names of the GB is not the important thing it was the organization as a whole not any one man,the same as the ones at Pentecost,the names of those there are not the important thing,men are imperfect and made mistakes and so is the organization ran by men the Zions Watchtower was not and still not infallible:

  "They do not claim that this slave class is infallible, but they do view it as the one channel that the Lord is using during the last days of this system of things." Proclaimers p.626

  "I'm struggling to think of anything that Russell taught that Jehovah's Witnesses still accept today"

  Only the Scriptures are infallible but understanding the message from God then was like a dim light coming from the darkness,the darkness the bible students came from the false Churches into Jehovah's wonderful bright light of truth.When a person is in pitch black darkness and a bright light shines forth can one comprehend that bright light in its totality,NO,so how could the Watchtower understand from the beginning all of truths contained in Gods word.

  Proverbs which is from God says,
  

  "But the path of the righteous ones is like the bright light that is getting lighter and lighter until the day is firmly established." Proverbs 4:18

  These ones just left main stream false worship and brought those beliefs with them ,its unreasonable to think they left the the false worship and suddenly in light of this passage came to full truth that they have now.The scriptures dont support such a belief:

  New Living Translation
  When I was a child, I spoke and thought and reasoned as a child. But when I grew up, I put away childish things.

  They were spiritual babes coming into Jehovah's wonderful light,some still smoked,some still wore crosses and other things associated with the Churches

  Does truth change? NO,but the understanding of that truth has and still become clearer

  "If not going to war is your criteria for who the fds is. Then what about the amish?"

  Thats was not the only criteria Christ looked at,the spiritual feeding and preaching his new incoming world Kingdom.Did the Amish preach about Gods Kingdom being established,NO

  Matt 24-14
  

  And this good news of the Kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness
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  Who really is the faithful and discreet* slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?

  by Alex Williams in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this statement was answered in a form of a question to a question posed by one of his followers;.

  jesus realized that composite slave had to qualify for such an appointment when he came into power of his kingdom promised by jehovah god.

  [and they came to life and ruled as kings with the christ+ for 1,000 years].

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  This statement was answered in a form of a question to a question posed by one of his followers;

  Jesus realized that composite slave had to qualify for such an appointment when he came into power of his Kingdom promised by Jehovah God

  [And they came to life and ruled as kings with the Christ+ for 1,000 years]

  JWs believe this was in 1914 -1919 when he came into power,since Jesus when on earth was concerned about his sheep being spiritually fed how much more so being in heaven and becoming King.

  John 21-17 GNT
  

  Jesus said to him, “Take care of my lambs.” 16 A second time Jesus said to him, “Simon son of John, do you love me?”

  “Yes, Lord,” he answered, “you know that I love you.”

  Jesus said to him, “Take care of my sheep.” 17 A third time Jesus said, “Simon son of John, do you love me?”

  Peter became sad because Jesus asked him the third time, “Do you love me?” and so he said to him, “Lord, you know everything; you know that I love you!”

  Jesus said to him, “Take care of my sheep.

  What was the mainstream Churches involved in the great war in 1914?

  https://encyclopedia.1914-1918-online.net/article/the_churches

  So main stream religious organizations were actively involved in the war
  

  

  
  

  
  

  Unity Among Catholic, Protestant, and Jewish American Soldiers

  When the United States entered the First World War, the most prominent religious groups were Catholics, Protestants, and Jews. The conflict served to unite these religions

  For national churches such as The Church of England, war was heavily supported. They felt that it was their duty to pray for soldiers because they needed the grace of God

  Members from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints’ participation on World War I provided an opportunity for members of the Church to clearly define themselves to the world

  So main stream religious organizations were actively involved in the war,blessing the weapons of death

  What were Zions Watchtower doing during the great war of 1914 :

  

  
  

  So Jesus looked at who was preaching his Kingdom,who was neutral in the world war and who was still feeding his sheeplike followers. Jehovahs Witnesses proved to be that wise Slave not any religions of Christendom

  "Happy is that slave if his master on coming finds him doing so!+ 47 Truly I say to you, he will appoint him over all his belongings"

  He found the Watchtower doing his will when he came to power and appointed them over all his earthy treasure.No matter how much they are criticized,attacked and accused they are Gods channel for spiritual food in these last days
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  Evolution - A Conversation with Alex Williams

  by cofty in

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  alex - thank you for your offer to have a conversation about evolution.. i accept the scientific evidence that all life - including humans - evolved from a common ancestor through unguided evolution over millions of years.

  this isn't even a controversial position in the scientific community.. the evidence rests on the data from many interconnected fields including paleontology, comparative anatomy, geology and especially genetics.

  it is no exaggeration to say that the evidence for your own non-human ancestry is contained in every cell in your body.. it is my experience that jws are generally quite ignorant (not in a pejorative sense) of the scientific case.

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  There was nothing more to say,I presented the probability odds based on scientific minds

  of evolution vs creation .I don't have to prove I'm right the creation itself testify to Jehovah's eternal power.
  
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  What happens after the End from teachings of Main stream Churches and teachings of Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Alex Williams in

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  matthew 24:14 new international version (niv).

  14 and this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.. only one teaching will lead to salvation and the other one will lead to death forever.

  both teachings will be from verses in nwt and mainstream translation of christendom to compare both,before starting the reason both translations is the translators in many cases slanted the text to support the believe of that time,for example :.

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  James 2:14-26 New King James Version (NKJV)

  Faith Without Works Is Dead
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  What happens after the End from teachings of Main stream Churches and teachings of Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Alex Williams in

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  matthew 24:14 new international version (niv).

  14 and this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.. only one teaching will lead to salvation and the other one will lead to death forever.

  both teachings will be from verses in nwt and mainstream translation of christendom to compare both,before starting the reason both translations is the translators in many cases slanted the text to support the believe of that time,for example :.

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  Faith Without Works Is Dead

  As well as works without faith is also

  
  "Once a person is saved"

  No one is now saved,Jesus plainly said :

  
  New American Standard Bible
  "But the one who endures to the end, he will be saved.

  Paul liken this fight for life as a race and said run with endurance which suggest if one didnt continue to run will lose the race,so no one is saved,thats like saying Ive finished the race Ive won and not come to the finish line

  Each one now is being judged by how they respond to the Good news of Gods Kingdom,if one accept the message and repent will be lead to Christ as one of his sheep if they continue reject the Kingdom message they will be judged as a goat and be destroyed:

  
  

  Matthew 25:31-46 New International Version (NIV)

  
  When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.

  34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

  37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

  40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

  41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.